Hi,
hoping someone can help finalise this part of our Germany trip.
We plan to Travel by train from Heidelberg to Baden-Baden, then Baden-Baden to (? help is needed), which will then give us ag ood connection to Zurich by Train.
Can someone suggest a good middle point that helps us see the %26#39;black forest%26#39; area by train and connects with our other stops.
We will be using Eurail, but plan to purchase the Bahn? pass also for Travel in Germany.
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I suggest Freiburg .
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There are direct trains from Baden-Baden, Offenburg, Freiburg and Rottweil to Zurich.
Gengenbach is a quaint small town near Offenburg:
http://www.stadt-gengenbach.de/
From Freiburg there are frequent trains to Titisee and Schluchsee.
From Baden-Baden there are direct trains to Offenburg, Gengenbach and Freiburg. For Rottweil you%26#39;d have to change in Villingen.
www.rottweil.de/ceasy/modules/cms/main.php5…
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Most interesting would be to cross the Black Forest by train on the route Baden-Baden - Offenburg - Gengenbach - Triberg - Villingen - Donaueschingen - Singen - (Konstanz or Schaffhausen) - Zürich
bahn.de/regional/view/mdb/pv/deutschlanderle…
Offenburg - Donaueschingen is esp. around Triberg the most interesting regular railroad in Germany.
www.badische-schwarzwaldbahn.de/swbtab.jpg
Gengenbach
http://www.stadt-gengenbach.de/
Triberg
http://www.dasferienland.de/e/
This is the most %26quot;direct%26quot; route to Zürich from Baden-Baden. Albeit not the fastest (due the landscape, i.e slower trains). And you have to change trains at least once. Direct trains to Zürich exist only from places at the periphery of the Black Forest. Not from places really inside the Black Forest.
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I agree, the Schwarzwaldbahn route abalada described will be the most interesting and still easy route. You can board these trains (the RE or IRE to Konstanz) in Baden-Baden.
The disadvantage of Gengenbach is that only local trains stop there so you%26#39;d have to change in Offenburg for the Ortenau S-Bahn to get there, and then again in Hausach for the faster train to Donaueschingen/Singen, or back to Offenburg to catch the ICE to Zürich.
The Schwarzwaldbahn IRE%26#39;s stop, however, in Triberg which is a bit touristy (bearable though) but will give you a taste of the Black Forest if you stop for 2 hours. According to www.bahnhof.de the station in Triberg has luggage lockers (can anyone confirm?). Walk the village, see the %26quot;world%26#39;s biggest cuckoo clock%26quot; and the waterfalls, try the famous Black Forest cherry cake... then hop back on the train.
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Thank-you all for you tips and information.
With the slightly longer trip that Abalada has mentioned - how long would this take?
We have one planned night in Baden-Baden, and the 2 nights before the 4th night is planned around being in Zurich.
This leave our Black Forest travel plan looking something like this:
Baden-Baden
FREE
FREE
Zurich
If we decided to fill the two nighs up, would you suggest spending another night in Baden-baden or/and one night in each of Freiburg or Triberg
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%26gt;We will be using Eurail, but plan to purchase the Bahn? pass also for Travel in Germany.
What do you mean? If you have a Deutsche Bahn railpass you don%26#39;t need an Eurail pass and vice versa.
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Thanks altamiro ,
I thought I read somewhere that the Eurail pass does not cover all of the train network in Germany and the local card network card - Bahn needs to be purchased.
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%26gt;I thought I read somewhere that the Eurail pass does not cover all of the train network in Germany and the local card network card - Bahn needs to be purchased.
Yes, it doesn%26#39;t cover the entire network. Just 99% of it.
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Most (all?) private train companies that operate in the former West have mutual agreements with DB and use the same tickets and fares as DB. There are some newer private train companies in the former East that have their own fare structures and their own tickets, don%26#39;t accept DB tickets on their trains and vice versa. I assume those are the ones which don%26#39;t accept Eurail passes either (experts please?) You won%26#39;t encounter any of those in the Black Forest, though.
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A rail pass covers in Germany
- all DB trains
- all trains where the DB tariff applies. These are all normal regional trains run by private companies.
Not covered are far distance trains run by private companies. There are to my knowledge only 2 of them: InterConnex and VogtlandExpress. But their routes are in the east and there are only a few trains per day.
Not covered are also a few special/touristic train lines. E.g. the Harz Narrow Gauge Railways, the Zugspitzbahn. And museum railways, like the Wutachtalbahn in the Black Forest.
But overall the coverage is more like 99,8% than 99%.
%26gt; the local card network card
Tickets covering local public transport can still make sense. They cover besides regional trains and S-Bahn trains also U-Bahn (metro), trams and buses. And the latter 3 are not covered by a rail pass.
If you want/can use on a day only regional trains anyway a local public transport offer will be the cheaper option compared to using a pass day of a rail pass.
If you stay directly in the Black Forest (e.g. Gengenbach or Triberg - NOT Baden-Baden or Freiburg) you%26#39;ll get a card (called KONUS) covering local public transport in the Black Forest even for free.
http://www.blackforest-tourism.com/konus